In the later part of 2007 I finally had some funds put together to get myself a proper PC gaming rig again. I settled on the Nvidia 8800 Ultra as my card of choice. I bought the MSI version for a massive $589 before shipping. This was actually quite cheap for the Ultra at that time thanks to it being an MSI model. And then I strapped a $130 waterblock to it.
Yep. I upgraded from a $300 mid-range video card to a $700 one. Even in 2007 the 8800 series was getting a bit dated. The Ultra was discontinued only a couple months after I purchased it. It wasn’t a good value for the money so they say.
I’ve been using it for a year and a half now and today is the first day it’s let me down. I can’t run STALKER Clear Sky at 1600×1200 with full eye candy at 30FPS minimum. FarCry 2, Crysis, Fallout 3, FEAR2 and GTA4 are all games I’ve recently played with it and it’s done amazing on each and every one. STALKER:CS is a demanding game with amazing lighting effects and at 1600×1200 it will dip down to 20FPS. Again, with maximum settings.
Except for AA. I don’t use or like AA.
The problem seems to be video RAM. 768m just isn’t enough anymore if you want full eye candy. GTA4 is the most noticible when it comes to video ram usage since it provides a handy little utility for guestimating how much you need. If you want big draw distances you just need a lot more video memory.
Super fast DDR3 helps when you need to swap textures but it’s still a bad idea. So I have to run STALKER:CS at 1280×960 resolution. With full eye candy but less resolution I get the 30FPS minimum I want with averages in the mid 40s. The video memory usuage drops to 600-800m so mcuh more inline with the card.
Don’t know why dropping resolution drops down memory usage but since it does more power too me.
I’ve noticed that I’m not running the card overclocked. With RivaTuner and the water cooling I can clock this card to over 720MHz core, 1580MHz shader, and 1250MHz vram. RivaTuner somehow got uninstalled on this machine so it’s only running it’s stock ‘overclock’ of 660/1512/1150MHz.
The stock Ultra is spec’ed for 612/1500/2160MHz. So MSI really got some solid numbers out of it out of the box. But don’t let MSI fool you: the card was NEVER stable at those settings with the stock cooling. You’d get a lot of pixel ‘glitter’ at those settings though underclocking it to stock Ultra settings fixed that. So did going to water cooling.
As far as the DangerDen cooler well I think it was a waste to be honest. I love DangerDen products and I’m absolutely glad someone makes such a massive cooler that can also cool the RAM and power components. But the thing of it is that you just can’t get much more out of the RAM. RAM tends not to overclock so well on video cards and even when it does it provides very little performance gain. Having MORE ram is important. Does the DangerDen cooler sacrifice GPU cooling abilites for the RAM? The GPU temperatures are quite high. Well over 65c after intense gaming. Thermal transfer from the GPU to the water is poor with this block. That doesn’t stop 720-730MHz core ranges from being unreachable though. With a little overvolting I think 730-740MHz would be completely stable. I would like a better GPU block though.
I still think vram is the limiting factor here. Who cares about a fast core/shader if you’re swapping textures from system RAM all the time? If this card had 1GB or more of RAM I think I’d be playing at full res on STALKER.
The bottom line for me is that I’ve gotten a lot of use out of this card. Being able to run PC games with all the lovely eye candy has sort of made me buy and play a ton of PC games in the past 18 months. I’m still shocked every time I get a new game and go in to the options screen and crank everything up and watch it not struggle at all. Did I get my moneys worth? No I don’t think so. The water cooling kit was too much for what I got out of it. And the MSI Ultra, while a good deal at the time, wasn’t priced to compete with the slightly better valued 8800 GTX.
But I still don’t need to upgrade. The Nvidia GTX 285 can be had for under $400 and it’ll have 1GB of RAM. It’s a tremendous value for that and it’d be my card of choice. I get to wait for the next series of GPUs to come out before I start feeling the slowdown.